Something to think about as we get ready to vote

Foreword: I did not write this, just stole it from friend. It would behoove us all to remember just what kind of people we are dealing with when it comes to Hillary C. She is JUST as bad as her philandering Billy. Wonder just who he is "doing" these days?

I know we hear or see all the stories about President Bush and how bad he is, so here is the story the newspapers don't tell you about the president who gave you prosperity that you wanted and bankrupted the country of its morals.

Bill &Hillary: Worse than you thought & worth remembering and this came from a Democrat

Dear Mr. Ex President Clinton:

I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for
Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that, and I am sending my
"Thank you" for what you have done, specifically:

1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica
Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick. Did
I leave anyone out?

2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really
planned to wait until he was a little older to discuss it with him, but
now he knows more about it than I did as a senior in college.

3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place
(especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to
know is what the meaning of "it" is. It really is great to know that
certain sexual acts are not sex, and one person may have sex while the
other one does NOT have sex.

4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new
generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie "Wag
the Dog" could be plausible after all.

5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look
graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and
John Kennedy look moral.

6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th
Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying
about Democratic campaign fund raising.

7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment's from
the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal
convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton" scandals.

8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our
foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations" carefully
disguised as necessary trips.

9 Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of dollars (I really didn't need
it in the first place, and I can't think of a more deserving group of
recipients for my hard-earned tax dollars) for all of your globe-trotting.
I understand you, the family and your cronies have logged in more time
aboard Air Force One than any other administration.

10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons of
convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have them
rejoin society. (Not to mention the scores you pardoned while Governor of

11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware. I'm sure that
Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming
gifts you've received from your "friends."

12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House for
vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I also
appreciate removing all of that excess weight (China, silverware, linen,
towels, ash trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out
of Air Force 1. The weight savings means burning less fuel, thus less tax
dollars spent on jet fuel. Thank you!

13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million dollar
advance for her "tell-all" book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for
your memoirs. Who says crime doesn't pay!

14. The last and most important point - thank you for forcing Israel to
let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in
Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part
of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree
to release so-called "political prisoners". However, the Israelis would
not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the
time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher,
"insisted" that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed
and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the
World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks
at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in
the US from all later reports. Why shouldn't Americans know the real

What a guy!!

If you agree that the American public must be made aware of these facts,
pass this on. God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my
taxes so wisely and frugally.

A US Citizen

PS. Please pass along a special thank you to Al Gore for "inventing" the
Internet, without which I would not be able to send this wonderful,
factual e-mail.

AND THE REST OF THE STORY Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York State
Senator, now comes under the "Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan,"
which means that even if she never gets reelected, she STILL receives her
Congressional salary until she dies. (Would it not be nice if all
Americans were pension eligible after only 4 years?)

If Bill outlives her, he then inherits HER salary until HE dies. He is
already getting his presidential salary until he dies. If Hillary outlives
Bill, she also gets HIS salary until she dies. Guess who pays for that?


It's common knowledge that in order for her to establish NY residency,
they purchased a million dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua, New York.
Makes sense. They are entitled to Secret Service protection for life.
Still makes sense.

Here is where it becomes interesting. Their mortgage payments hover at
around $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residence HAD to be built within
the acreage to house the Secret Service agents. The Clintons charge the
Federal government $10,000 monthly rent for the use of that extra
residence, which is just about equal to their mortgage payment. This means
that we, the taxpayers, are paying the Clinton's salary, mortgage,
transportation, safety and security, as well as the salaries for their 12
man staff -- and, this is all perfectly legal!

When she runs for President, will you vote for her?


so--- what's new? said...

And the list goes on and as soon as I have time to actually sit and make my list I shall do so. No supposition! Facts! We do not have enough electricity to make a Bush list or two along with Mr. C. Great subject!!!!!

Sam said...

Hey Everett, did the dogs get in your computer wires again? The Presidential Election isn't until 2008.

If you're referring to the mid-term elections that could boost Democratic representation in Congress, well that's a different story.

And let's be fair, all those Republicans in power ain't so darn hot these days. I mean bribery, election fraud, theft, graft, huge pork projects, sex, gay sex, drunkeness, addiction, pornography ... for a party that promised "family values" that's a tough pill to swallow!

Yes, the pendulum swings - maybe you are worried it will swing too far. Thats legit, man. /Sam

Everett said...

Yeah, I know it's not for two more years,but now is the time to be thinking about cleaning house down there. How do you do that? You DO NOT vote for ANY incumbent! This time or next. No matter what his political stripe and color is. And then start cleaning out the entrenched beaurecrats who just keep perpetuating the same old shit by telling the new guys, "oh you can't do this or that"! Sure they can, that's why they got elected. Foreign Policy? Almost the same as Teddy Roosevelt. "Talk/walk softly, but carry a BIG stick"!
Virtually every damned one of those 635 prople have big old dirty nasty skeletons in their closets that need outing and burying! The ones with the loudest mouths have the biggest secrets. Been out drowning any more young ladies Mr. K? Ones we haven't heard about yet?
Totaly clean house!!!TIFN

Sam said...

I'm down with that, Everett, I agree. But don't you think there's just too much money in it? I mean why would anyone take a loser job in government? It must be the bucks.

Let me attack a so-called Hillary Moderate, Evan Baugh (Indiana, see editorial in Washington Post). He is supporting the steel tarriff, which applies a tax on imported steel. It sounds good but nobody supports it and it is bad policy. It was based on a flawed assumption that if repealed, steel would be "dumped" on the US market, about 36% cheaper.

The real answer was more like 2.5%, from a consortium of US steelmakers that had forged with Nippon Steel. So it was all a big lie.

Why did Evan Baugh do this? It's easy - he's one the dole for a lobbying group representing a few US steel concerns (maybe ones not part of the consortium). He's getting checks in the mail.

It's the money, Everett. /Sam

Obnoxious said...

All this kind of stuff has been going on since the begining of our government. If you dig hard enough there are skeletons in all their closets, just some are better at hiding it then others.Maybe we are trying to hard to find the buried bones and not truly looking at who is doing the best job for us. I'm sure we all have things we don't want to be public so don't be so anxious to point fingers.

Anonymous said...

The most awful political occurance in memory is how we were told by our Presedent that Saddam could launch a Chemical or Biological in 45 minutes, and then there has been no investigation into whether we were purposefully mislead, or if it was accidentally, what the hell went wrong.

Blowjobs and whitewater are the very least of my concerns Mr. Littlefeild.

Ex-Manissean said...

Anon 1:18PM
Maybe its just that annoying little detail that Saddam wanted all the major Intelligence agencies to think that, hoping it would deter attack. Even Kerry and Clinton publicly said he had WMDs at the time.

Anonymous said...

The Iraq/Al-Queda "link" surely was not the product of any democratic think tank. Everyone bought into it because the Neo-Cons had a stranglehold over the intellgence agencies and the information they were allowed disseminate. The Vice Presidet was taking daily trip to the CIA to oversee the intellgence gathering...this information comes directly from George Tenant.

America would be much better off if Saddam Hussein were still in power. He distrusted terrorists.

whirrled religions said...

Here's a tad of information for the WMD mixup.

Yes, Saddam claimed to have WMD as a bluff to counter Iran's WMD program and to shore up Iraq against any Iran incursion. Iran has always been an unfriendly neighbor and its Shiite government, at that time, a threat to the Sunni minority government of Iraq. ( Recall the Iraq-Iran war where the US funded Saddam in his invasion of Iran, following the exile of the Shah and the seizure of power by Ayatollah Khomeini.

Iran still poses a serious threat to Iraq and continues to support various Shiite militias throughout the mid-East--Hezbollah ---for example.

Sam said...

Yes, Whirrled, we not only supported Sadaam against Iran but also Afganistan armies against the Russians! Many of those ammunitions used against us today were ones WE supplied Lord knows way back when.

I suppose the anonymous poster hijacked this thread because he or she thought that the worst thing was Bush going after WMD in Iraq - when we started out talking about the 2008 Hillary Election and some canned hooey Everett posted. Sorry Everett, but that really was editorial "hooey!"

As I recall, Hillary had nothing to do with going to war with Iraq, other than she might have had a chance for a 1/100 vote in the Senate.

But let me tell you something many people don't know about Hillary. She's a power bitch. In private, she cusses like a sailor and is "pure D" mean. About the only thing she really did good in the Clinton Administration was to try to fix the medical situation, for which she was roundly defeated. [It is interesting how Bush's Medicare/Medicade program sounds just like her's.]

And let me tell you Hillary has a memory like an elephant and can be meaner than one with a calf. Everett has a right to bring up some aspects of her running in 2008 but I don't think you all know what you're up against. That girl is not going to fool around with platitudes, conjecture, and BS. /Sammy

barbara bush said...


So let me get this.
When Hillary is assertive and forceful she's "a power bitch"???
When Rumsfeld is assertive and forceful does that make him a "power bastard"?

Most people in politics are there for the power and not the scenery. How come when women excercise power they become 'bitches" whereas men are seen as powerful?

Golly gee.
I'm wondering if anyone else in politics manages to use some cuss words. God forbid a women ever does.

I wasn't rooting for Hillary before reading your posting, but now.....She's got my vote for the oval office.

Ex-Manissean said...

Saddam distrusted terrorists so much he that he trained them at Salman Pak, including an airline fuselage for hijack training, supported the pro al-qaeda ansar al-islam in N. Iraq and even had an old folks home for retired terrorists like Abu Nidal. Saddam also used to pay $25,000 to each family of palistinian suicide bombers.

Sam and Barbara,
As for Billary I wouldnt mind seeing a Condi vs Hillary catfight in '08

Anonymous said...

The Saudis also pay the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. I am sure that if you dig in any Middle Eastern Country, you will find terrorists or "retired" terrorists living there. This does not mean it would be in America's interest to invade all these places also.

The fact is that the misinformation that got us into Iraq was a purposeful lie, or a complete breakdown of our intelligence aparatus. Either way the fault rests on GWB. The president controlled the intellgence sgancies that convinced us and our elected represenatives to give him the authorization to go to war.

His response...give George Tenant the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

I have not heard anyone sucessfully argue, that knowing what we know now, going to Iraq was the right move. The same people who make this failing argument have the same mindset as the ones who do not want an investigation into what went wrong.

Everett said...

If you do a good deal of reading of the thousands of blogs out there, you will come across many by respected people from all across the spectrum of politics. One of them is called,Iraq the Model. It is written by an Iraqi IN Iraq. On his as well as lots of others you will find info that yes indeed the Us forces HAVE found WMD's Buried in the sand over there. No, they are not nukes, but are just as deadly. They are chemical as well as biological, those, not very viable now, and they were found by the thousands in caches all over the damned country. How come the people who live there can find these things, bring them to light, put them in huge piles there on the sand, but the, "God damn it how I hate Bush" media can't seem to take a photo of these things and get them on the nightly news or in one of the national newspapers? Would that be because that would give some creedence to the claims of GWB? Of course it would, so we will NEVER see them with Katie gushing over them as happens when another American service man gets killed protecting our ungrateful asses back here at home. P C is going to be the death of this country and that date is fast approaching.
We NEED to get our heads out of our asses DO something about all the problems facing this country. And guess what folks? GWB DID NOT cause all of them!! Do you think you will ever be able to place blame/responsiblity where it truly belongs? OH, how naieve (sp) of me to think that GWB didn't start the Vietnam war or WWII, or Korea! We should all just realize that he has been responsible for ALL the ill's of the twentyeth century. Okay, now it is your turn!TIFN

Ex-Manissean said...

Besides the fact he was daily firing on our planes patrolling the no-fly zone, a violation of his cease-fire agreement, which by itself was justification for us taking him out. The one thing that justifies our intervention above all is the Kurds. The most pro-American Muslims I have ever met. Their part of Iraq is never heard about in the news because it is so peaceful and prosperous now. Saddams on trial for gassing them, and Iraq has a popularly elected govt now. Their Police and military improve daily. What they do with it when we leave is up to them. Maybe reconstruction and security in the middle and south could have been done better by us, but then hindsight is always 20-20.

Sam said...

Um folks, the central thing - other than I agree Rummy is a "power bastard - is that should have never invaded Iraq the second time under George 43. But we did, and we're stuck there for the stupidity and foolishness of a very few politicians.

In this case Iraq didn't blow up the WTC, sink any ships, invade any countries (that is, after George 41 kicked ass). It was one big giant mistake and you know, the rest of the world is still laughing. I mean, we're a big joke!

I find people who to rationalize all that, and say we done good, to be quite addled in the brain. I would venture that you might be emotionally unstable and unfit.

Listen, it's not YOUR job to justify some cockamamie war in Iraq invented by some crazy people. Let the peple who screwed up so horribly make their own excuses.

Anonymous said...

Hey Everette, ya think it Ironic that those same chemicle weapons which have been found were developed by us and given to Saddam? Looks like entrapment to me?

Not sure if you guys know anyone there, but I have some friends to give me unfiltered info. The place is a mess and it has only gotten worse.

Everette, I bet you think the Kennedy Asassanation was just as our government told too.

Ex-Manissean said...

Wow, we went all the way from Hillary to the Kennedy assasination. Sorry you feel that way Sam. The second Iraq war was just an extension of the first, of which there was never a signed peace treaty, just a cease fire agreement that Saddumb violated daily. Not to mention the list of other reasons the media downplays. The other big jokes the world laughs at that invaded with us at the time includes, Britain, Australia, Italy, Spain, Poland among others. But then this is supposed to be a Hillary thread and nobody is going to convert anyone to their opinion anyway, so peace out ya'll.

Sam said...

Hey Ex-Manissean,

I think Hillary voted to invade Iraq, although she soon started launching missives about not having enough troops, etc.

I did not mean to sound sarcastic, as hindsight is 20-20 but at the time, all the facts, data, and analysis we had, including NSA and CIA, clearly indicated that Iraq was a growing international terrorist threat. Even Collin Powwell said so, a man I deeply respect.

There I said it. History was not kind to us after the fact, but at the time, I would have "went into Iraq" myself. I apologize for temporarily losing my senses.


Ex-Manissean said...

Sam, Anon
I know its a mess there right now. Europe and N. Africa was a big mess in 1943, but the tide was starting to turn. Lincoln almost lost re-election in 1864 to an anti-war democrat, because the extremely high body count and lack of battlefield successes was making people think twice about preserving the union. Iraqi's I have worked with were very happy to see Saddam go, and grateful to the US. The death toll was declining until the beginning of ramadan, which, to the fanatical, means if you die as a martyr during ramadan, you get a "double-blessing".
Hey Anonymous,
I beleive 99% of conspiracy theories are nonsense, and probably would think the same of JFK too, except that my wife's Aunt was working as a nurse in the emergency room at Parkland Hospital the day they brought him in, and she said the wounds were not as they were later said to be.